Grateful Dead Live at Hershey Park Stadium on 1985-06-28
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- Publication date
- 1985-06-28 ( check for other copies)
- Topics
- Soundboard, Charlie Miller
- Collection
- GratefulDead
- Band/Artist
- Grateful Dead
- Resource
- DeadLists Project
- Item Size
- 1.1G
Set 1
Cold Rain & Snow-> Promised Land, Ramble On Rose, Down In The Bottom, I Ain't Superstitous-> Bird Song-> Comes A Time-> Deal
Set 2
The Music Never Stopped-> Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues, Estimated Prophet-> Terrapin Station-> Drums-> I Need A Miracle-> Morning Dew-> Throwing Stones-> Not Fade Away, E: Day Job
Rained throughout show; Jerry wore a blazer over his usual T-shirt.
Cold Rain & Snow-> Promised Land, Ramble On Rose, Down In The Bottom, I Ain't Superstitous-> Bird Song-> Comes A Time-> Deal
Set 2
The Music Never Stopped-> Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues, Estimated Prophet-> Terrapin Station-> Drums-> I Need A Miracle-> Morning Dew-> Throwing Stones-> Not Fade Away, E: Day Job
Rained throughout show; Jerry wore a blazer over his usual T-shirt.
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Versions - Different performances of the song by the same artist
Compilations - Other albums which feature this performance of the song
Covers - Performances of a song with the same name by different artists
Song Title | Versions | Compilations | Covers |
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Cold Rain And Snow -> | |||
Promised Land | |||
Ramble On Rose | |||
I Ain't Superstitious -> Down In The Bottom | |||
Bird Song -> | |||
Comes A Time -> | |||
Deal | |||
The Music Never Stopped -> | |||
Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues | |||
Estimated Prophet -> | |||
Terrapin Station -> | |||
Drums -> | |||
Space -> | |||
I Need A Miracle -> | |||
Morning Dew -> | |||
Throwing Stones -> | |||
Not Fade Away | |||
Keep Your Day Job |
Notes
Notes:
-- Disc change is seamless
-- Dozens of flaws cleaned up
-- There is some PA static in the 2nd set that I could not remove
-- Thanks to Joe B. Jones for his help with the pitch correction
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- 2010-04-21 06:04:31
- Identifier
- gd1985-06-28.sbd.miller.107066.flac16
- Lineage
- CD -> Adobe Audition v3.0 -> Samplitude Professional v11.03 -> FLAC
- Location
- Hershey, PA
- Run time
- 133:18.22
- Transferred by
- Charlie Miller
- Type
- sound
- Venue
- Hershey Park Stadium
- Year
- 1985
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Reviews
Reviewer:
Mind Wondrin
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June 26, 2022
Subject: Milton Snavely
This show is known for outstanding versions of Dew and Music Never Stopped. For that reason it was often check listed as a recommended trade BITD of B & P. However, the rest of show is average to below average; best for '85 fans. It rained throughout the show, held in an outdoor stadium between the "Chocolate World Pavilion" and the amusement park. This was their only time there, due in part to an uncool promoter/sketchy venue crew. The previous year they had played next door in Harrisonburg, and though they returned to PA a few days later, after this they did not play central PA again – only Philly or Pittsburgh areas. Jer and Phil have a better show than Bobby.
First Set. Cold Rain & Snow is shaky but they warm up during Promised Land...only to get shaky again for Ramble (fine solo though). Though I Ain't Superstitious is a Howlin' Wolf song, most of us grew up familiar with the version on Jeff Beck's Truth. This is the last of 9, and Bobby briefly interpolates Down in the Bottom (also a Howlin' Wolf, early '60s Chess single), though it is not actually played. Bird Song is unresolved [ending is skipped], and Jer has difficulty with the verses, so maybe that's why he bailed. He does better with Comes a Time, but the end jam of Deal is the peak of the set, and the first real solid playing (note that, to save Bobby, this is the 3rd Jer song in a row). A shortened set with lots of lyric flubs and rough singing, but okay jams.
Second Set. Music Never Stopped seems like it's going to be shaky like the first set, but it quickly gets propelled in all the right places. And the middle jam is great. Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues is the 4th one, unfortunately Phil's mic is off at first, and it never really gels, though Phil gets to rep his hometown, San Anselmo. Bobby get to rep shouting and hiccupping in Estimated, but the middle jam is nice. Can't say the same for the Terrapin that trainwrecks a couple mins in, though it recovers, mostly. Drums has a 14sec tape flip near the beginning on SBDs, and a cut of 5: 36 @5:35 (copies also have some dropouts, crackling). By I Need a Miracle Bobby is shot, though Phil is great. Morning Dew is a turnaround; surprisingly potent. A mellow and intense version at the same time, and arguably the year's best. They are pretty much past the sell-by date after that with flubby renditions, though Not Fade Away has its moments – and a hard ending [SBDs have a 32sec cut @2:50].
1st Set: C
2nd Set: C+
Overall = 2¾ stars
Highlights:
The Music Never Stopped – propelled
Morning Dew – potent, mellow & intense all at once
SOURCES: Previous to the mattman_23593, all SBDs ran slow. The miller_107066 has the best pitch and sound, but is missing half of Drums, like all SBDs [and the MTX is missing the last 3:05; use senn_me80_hessberg_miller for complete Drums]. It also needs a pitch correction of +1% for Music Never Stopped, Tom Thumb's & Estimated. SBDs also have a cut in Not Fade [it's complete on AUD or MTX]. The 151254_sbd is normalized for better volume, but runs slow like the early SBDs and has poor patches.
Subject: Milton Snavely
This show is known for outstanding versions of Dew and Music Never Stopped. For that reason it was often check listed as a recommended trade BITD of B & P. However, the rest of show is average to below average; best for '85 fans. It rained throughout the show, held in an outdoor stadium between the "Chocolate World Pavilion" and the amusement park. This was their only time there, due in part to an uncool promoter/sketchy venue crew. The previous year they had played next door in Harrisonburg, and though they returned to PA a few days later, after this they did not play central PA again – only Philly or Pittsburgh areas. Jer and Phil have a better show than Bobby.
First Set. Cold Rain & Snow is shaky but they warm up during Promised Land...only to get shaky again for Ramble (fine solo though). Though I Ain't Superstitious is a Howlin' Wolf song, most of us grew up familiar with the version on Jeff Beck's Truth. This is the last of 9, and Bobby briefly interpolates Down in the Bottom (also a Howlin' Wolf, early '60s Chess single), though it is not actually played. Bird Song is unresolved [ending is skipped], and Jer has difficulty with the verses, so maybe that's why he bailed. He does better with Comes a Time, but the end jam of Deal is the peak of the set, and the first real solid playing (note that, to save Bobby, this is the 3rd Jer song in a row). A shortened set with lots of lyric flubs and rough singing, but okay jams.
Second Set. Music Never Stopped seems like it's going to be shaky like the first set, but it quickly gets propelled in all the right places. And the middle jam is great. Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues is the 4th one, unfortunately Phil's mic is off at first, and it never really gels, though Phil gets to rep his hometown, San Anselmo. Bobby get to rep shouting and hiccupping in Estimated, but the middle jam is nice. Can't say the same for the Terrapin that trainwrecks a couple mins in, though it recovers, mostly. Drums has a 14sec tape flip near the beginning on SBDs, and a cut of 5: 36 @5:35 (copies also have some dropouts, crackling). By I Need a Miracle Bobby is shot, though Phil is great. Morning Dew is a turnaround; surprisingly potent. A mellow and intense version at the same time, and arguably the year's best. They are pretty much past the sell-by date after that with flubby renditions, though Not Fade Away has its moments – and a hard ending [SBDs have a 32sec cut @2:50].
1st Set: C
2nd Set: C+
Overall = 2¾ stars
Highlights:
The Music Never Stopped – propelled
Morning Dew – potent, mellow & intense all at once
SOURCES: Previous to the mattman_23593, all SBDs ran slow. The miller_107066 has the best pitch and sound, but is missing half of Drums, like all SBDs [and the MTX is missing the last 3:05; use senn_me80_hessberg_miller for complete Drums]. It also needs a pitch correction of +1% for Music Never Stopped, Tom Thumb's & Estimated. SBDs also have a cut in Not Fade [it's complete on AUD or MTX]. The 151254_sbd is normalized for better volume, but runs slow like the early SBDs and has poor patches.
Reviewer:
HairyJerryfan
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August 16, 2020
Subject: All I can say is that it's Miller time!
Subject: All I can say is that it's Miller time!
Thank you so much Charlie for the incredible sound... I was lucky Enough to receive music from Charlie many years ago, it's always been the highest quality available. The good old Kimock list, And it's politics lol! I feel incredibly lucky And very fortunate to still be getting all this sound... Is actually life giving thanks again Charlie! 5 stars
Reviewer:
kbmill
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March 8, 2017
Subject: bread crumb
Subject: bread crumb
Bird Song > Comes a Time > Deal. That's how you end a first set.
Reviewer:
jaxxtraw
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November 29, 2013
Subject: cold and wet
Subject: cold and wet
Despite the cold rain (for June) the energy was high going into the field for the show - the locals were a little freaked out - Bumper sticker of the tour "Trouble ahead, Jerry in red". Took a non dead head date who stood in rain the whole show, we're still married - but I tour solo.
Charlie Miller has done it again- brought all the music back. Thank you!
Charlie Miller has done it again- brought all the music back. Thank you!
Reviewer:
Buddy Q. Iodine
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February 8, 2013
Subject: great SBD
Subject: great SBD
I was close enough to see the "ignore alien orders" sticker on Weir's guitar for this show. It rained and there was a ridiculous crush getting in.
Nobody took my ticket; a guy said "please, I came all the way from california," and I slid it through the fence. He said "sucker!" Well, I didn't need the ticket, but this was an introduction to the seamier side of the scene. I was like 15 and thought all hippies were nice to each other, like Blair Jackson said they were.
Somebody said about this SBD that it's so clean you can hear the crossovers snap. it's pretty good!
The parts of the show I remember best are the Music Never Stopped, which seemed really inspired, to open the second set, and Phil trying to steamroll Bobby out of space into the Other One. Plus the Dew, and "jerry in red", plus a blazer. A good look, but it portended ill health.
This was very strong show in a good year, despite garcia's near-death experiences and ragged voice. He still played well.
Nobody took my ticket; a guy said "please, I came all the way from california," and I slid it through the fence. He said "sucker!" Well, I didn't need the ticket, but this was an introduction to the seamier side of the scene. I was like 15 and thought all hippies were nice to each other, like Blair Jackson said they were.
Somebody said about this SBD that it's so clean you can hear the crossovers snap. it's pretty good!
The parts of the show I remember best are the Music Never Stopped, which seemed really inspired, to open the second set, and Phil trying to steamroll Bobby out of space into the Other One. Plus the Dew, and "jerry in red", plus a blazer. A good look, but it portended ill health.
This was very strong show in a good year, despite garcia's near-death experiences and ragged voice. He still played well.
Reviewer:
Skobud
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December 8, 2012
Subject: Kermit rides again.
Subject: Kermit rides again.
What a pleasant surprise this show was for me. Gone are the days where I immediately dismiss an early 80’s show just because Jerry sounds close to death. For this particular performance I am guessing Jerry was approximately 60-65% deceased, yet he gave a very inspired performance which was also a little sloppy at times. We start right off with a CRS, which kinda caught me off guard. Immediately I notice just how shot Jerry sounds, but his playing was there..Pretty nice opener which was wound very tight at the end which plowed right into a very decent Promised Land. Bobby sounds hot tonight. Ramble On was next, and it sorta sucked. Now, the Aint Superstitious>Down in the Bottom sounded like Minglewood. No, it was Minglewood note for note with different lyrics. I really didn’t like it too much but again, Bobby is sounding good today so that helps…Bird Song>Comes a Time>Deal is next and is definitely the highlight of the first set. Im just gonna say that in general this combo is very nice. It just is sorta depressing to me to hear such an emotional song (Comes a Time) sung by Jer with such a shot voice. Im sure it was quite the moment for the crowd to hear with thoughts and rumors of his poor health swirling around by now. The first set is done and I felt a little moved by the first set. Very nice, much better than I anticipated.
TMNS starts off the second set after a few words from Bobby, and its off to the races again. Brent sounds a little higher in the mix during the second set, but not too high to put me off. They pull off the opener nicely and then they meander into Tom Thumb, which I really liked. The slow, weird time of this one really made it for me. In addition to Phil dropping cone splitting bombs all over this Park, he also does this one justice. Sweet job Phil! Next we have Estimated>Terrapin>.Drums>Space which starts off pretty good with some heavy vocals from Bobby, but it really loses its way during Terrapin..I thin Jerry misses two complete verses and I think Bobby may have woke him up abruptly for the second time around on the chorus. Drums and Space were just that and that part of the combo was really weak. Terrapin really killed it. I mean, Brent had his moments but they were not enough to keep this stinker from reeking up the place. That’s OK though because when they melt back into Miracle bobby really brings it..Strong!! I don’t ever really care for Miracle but this one delivers. Out of Miracle, we have the best and most emotional part of the show which is Dew. Man, I cant imagine what that was like hearing live. I was blown away by this Dew and for very good reason. His shot, almost sad sounding voice coupled with his heavy riffs make this an emotional roller coaster. Great Dew. Loved it. Throwin was kinda a disappointment after the beautiful Dew, and the NFA wound this one up nicely. The encore was Day Job, and I have to admit that song confuses me. Its like this hoky little melody that almost seems like it’s a joke or something. I have no idea how that song was ever taken seriously by the band nor why they played it so much during this time frame.
So, my thoughts…This was a very good show by any standard. I think for ’85, it’s a remarkable show. I just have a hard time listening to Jerry when he sounds so awful. His playing for the most part was hot on this night, but he sounded like Kermit close to death most of the time. Comes a Time and Dew both really got me, and so did this show for the most part. Set aside the abysmal Terrapin sequence, and this woulda been one of the greats. I just have to mention Phil’s influence real quick on this one. His bomb dropping throughout was a big factor in Jerry’s performance I think. It always seems to me when Phil has a really good show, Jerry does too. I think that was the case here and Jerry gave it pretty much everything he had on this evening. They both sounded wonderful. I am recommending this and giving it an B. I bet this one was great live! Cheers!
TMNS starts off the second set after a few words from Bobby, and its off to the races again. Brent sounds a little higher in the mix during the second set, but not too high to put me off. They pull off the opener nicely and then they meander into Tom Thumb, which I really liked. The slow, weird time of this one really made it for me. In addition to Phil dropping cone splitting bombs all over this Park, he also does this one justice. Sweet job Phil! Next we have Estimated>Terrapin>.Drums>Space which starts off pretty good with some heavy vocals from Bobby, but it really loses its way during Terrapin..I thin Jerry misses two complete verses and I think Bobby may have woke him up abruptly for the second time around on the chorus. Drums and Space were just that and that part of the combo was really weak. Terrapin really killed it. I mean, Brent had his moments but they were not enough to keep this stinker from reeking up the place. That’s OK though because when they melt back into Miracle bobby really brings it..Strong!! I don’t ever really care for Miracle but this one delivers. Out of Miracle, we have the best and most emotional part of the show which is Dew. Man, I cant imagine what that was like hearing live. I was blown away by this Dew and for very good reason. His shot, almost sad sounding voice coupled with his heavy riffs make this an emotional roller coaster. Great Dew. Loved it. Throwin was kinda a disappointment after the beautiful Dew, and the NFA wound this one up nicely. The encore was Day Job, and I have to admit that song confuses me. Its like this hoky little melody that almost seems like it’s a joke or something. I have no idea how that song was ever taken seriously by the band nor why they played it so much during this time frame.
So, my thoughts…This was a very good show by any standard. I think for ’85, it’s a remarkable show. I just have a hard time listening to Jerry when he sounds so awful. His playing for the most part was hot on this night, but he sounded like Kermit close to death most of the time. Comes a Time and Dew both really got me, and so did this show for the most part. Set aside the abysmal Terrapin sequence, and this woulda been one of the greats. I just have to mention Phil’s influence real quick on this one. His bomb dropping throughout was a big factor in Jerry’s performance I think. It always seems to me when Phil has a really good show, Jerry does too. I think that was the case here and Jerry gave it pretty much everything he had on this evening. They both sounded wonderful. I am recommending this and giving it an B. I bet this one was great live! Cheers!
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September 23, 2011
Subject: Great
Subject: Great
I was suppsed to go to this show but didn't. I do so regret that decision . Great show here. An excellent Bird Song>CAT>Deal. I love the Setlists throughout 85. The summer 85 Spaces are excellent, as is this one. Morning Dew crushes and then a high energy NFA to finish things out is hot. I am dissappointed I don't have first-hand memories of this show but it sounds excellent all these yeas later.
I prefer the SPAC or MPP myself, but this is very close to a 4 star show for me which gets rounded up.
I prefer the SPAC or MPP myself, but this is very close to a 4 star show for me which gets rounded up.
Reviewer:
myhungryhippo
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June 29, 2011
Subject: i need a miracle
Subject: i need a miracle
phil wants to go into the other one i dig this show being at the park
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E.R.C. Iceman!
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May 12, 2011
Subject: SWEET AS CHOCHOLATE!!!
Subject: SWEET AS CHOCHOLATE!!!
SWEET ASS BOARD! THE MILLER TEAM STRIKES AGAIN. MY 5TH SHOW. 19 YEARS OLD. GOONY BIRDS ALL OVER THE PLACE! EVERYONE WAS FLYIN'!!! SHORT 1ST SET. 3 JERRY SONGS IN A ROW. EPIC 2ND SET. I REMEMBER THE SCARY SPACE! GREAT PARKING LOT SCENE. YOU COULD SMELL THE CHOCOLATE COOKING FROM THE CANDY FACTORY!!!!
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